agree with doug, he really hit obama hard on obamacare and medicare pointing out how the obamacare law december mates medicare, and medicare advantage as well which is also a very popular program because it is partly private. i think what you'll see coming up in the next couple of weeks, but certainly in the vice presidental debate, martha, as you mentioned, is that paul ryan is this is his signature issue, and the point romney was making, the point ryan is going to make is look, younger voters, sort of my generation and younger -rpb , we all recognize that medicare and all of these other programs are not going to be here for us unless there is serious reform. what romney and ryan want to do is save these programs for the younger voters. what romney also did very effectively, is he understands, and ryan updzs ver understands very well that older voters have to understand that nothing will change for them. in the future they will be taken care of but younger voters will have the option of medicare or the premium support option to choose from. that is an argument they've been making and